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Review: Pithamagan
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Baradwaj Rangan
2003-11-08 04:42:15 UTC
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Pithamagan

Baradwaj Rangan

(C) The Economic Times, Madras Plus - November 8, 2003

In 'Pithamagan', Bala continues his love affair with the
fringe-dwellers and the misfits of society. He continues to nurture
characters that you care about before scotching all hopes for their
happiness. And he continues to detail some most unpleasant and
horrific stretches of film that disturb and make you cringe even as
they grab your attention and admiration. Yes, this is undoubtedly the
work of the man who made the superb 'Sethu' and the not-quite-there
'Nanda'.

'Pithamagan' is the story of the heroes - Siththan (Vikram) and Sakthi
(Surya) - getting in the way of a corrupt local big-shot, but the
incidents around this theme are almost incidental. By the end of the
first half of the film, you are no closer to figuring out its dramatic
crux than you were at the beginning, because the 'story' isn't
anything but a peg for Bala to hang his characters on. The complete
lack of narrative urgency in the initial portions may disorient
viewers more used to the A-leads-to-B-which-causes-C style of
storytelling, but this is really a character study posing as a
'masala' movie.

And what characters they turn out to be! The Hero, Siththan, burns
bodies at the graveyard and appears like a mangy dog, all yellowed
teeth and animalistic grunts and unkempt exterior. The Mother Figure,
Gomathi (an extremely moving Sangeetha), is a 'ganja' peddler. The
Hero's Best Friend, Sakthi, is a con man who holds court on the
subject of flatulence, and claims to possess the soapbox used by
Saroja Devi in 'Aalayamani'. And the Heroine, college student Manju (a
miscast Laila), expresses her displeasure with extended bouts of
shrieking.

These eccentricities make the central relationships feel fresh, even
if the director merely glosses over certain elements, like why Manju
falls for Sakthi or why Siththan is such a barbarian. Though
'Pithamagan' isn't quite a love story, it has different depictions of
the emotion - the Siththan-Sakthi friendship, the Sakthi-Manju
romance, the budding relationship between Siththan and Gomathi - and a
good part of the film shows them developing these bonds, giving us the
time to take these strange people into our hearts.

Bala, who never met a love angle that he couldn't taint with tragedy,
then takes things to their brutally violent conclusion. These are the
most dramatic portions of the film - the atmosphere is charged with
Ilayaraja's outstanding, if at times overbearing, score - and you see
why the big, fat character-building scenes were needed earlier on.
Pre-interval, you may have felt, for instance, that Sakthi has been
shown doing one too many con jobs, but these sequences, bringing out
his lightheartedness and his live-wire nature, hugely reinforce our
subsequent responses to his (mis)adventures.

Bala's ingeniousness is evident everywhere - from making a creepy
godman an almost-sympathetic figure of fun to Sakthi's offhand mocking
of a policeman as "nought-nought-seven" to making the most gratuitous
of episodes (an interlude with Simran, playing herself) seem halfway
relevant to the goings on. And he gets tremendous support from his
leads. Vikram essays a showy part with a potent mix of spectacle and
silence - think Kamal Haasan in 'Guna' without his Abirami fixation -
while Surya follows up his 'Kaakha Kaakha' grimness with an all-out
explosion of effusiveness and energy. It all adds up to a first-rate
film that excoriates as much as it entertains.
Cricketislife!
2003-11-08 05:10:43 UTC
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Post by Baradwaj Rangan
Pithamagan
Baradwaj Rangan
all adds up to a first-rate
film that excoriates as much as it entertains.
I hope so. I am planning to go for it today or tomorrow.
Having heard n seen the video of llayraja' 'Elangathu Veesudhye'
song has whetted my appetite, has given me sort of a feel abt the
movie. Plus I like both the lead actors, Vikram n Surya, talented
guys.
Hari
2003-11-09 05:06:50 UTC
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Post by Cricketislife!
Post by Baradwaj Rangan
Pithamagan
Baradwaj Rangan
all adds up to a first-rate
film that excoriates as much as it entertains.
I hope so. I am planning to go for it today or tomorrow.
Having heard n seen the video of llayraja' 'Elangathu Veesudhye'
song has whetted my appetite, has given me sort of a feel abt the
movie. Plus I like both the lead actors, Vikram n Surya, talented
guys.
Great movie. Did not feel guilty spending $10.50 per ticket. More I
see vikram, more I am getting impressed. He has a very unique acting
style, has great voice and good dialog delivery. His experience as
dubbing artistie in his struggling days helps him a lot. After Kamal,
he is a complte actor, ease at off-beat movies at the same time can
fit in to main-stream typical hero characters.
Surya was a revelation too. Kaka kaka his acting was good. This movie,
he completely surprised me.
After a long time, this has been a great year for tamil movies. Right
from Anbe sivam, to Pithamagan, there were good movies coming one
after each other, with great songs.

Hari
Cricketislife!
2003-11-09 06:07:47 UTC
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Post by Hari
Great movie. Did not feel guilty spending $10.50 per ticket. More I
see vikram, more I am getting impressed. He has a very unique acting
style, has great voice and good dialog delivery. His experience as
dubbing artistie in his struggling days helps him a lot. After Kamal,
he is a complte actor, ease at off-beat movies at the same time can
fit in to main-stream typical hero characters.
Surya was a revelation too. Kaka kaka his acting was good. This movie,
he completely surprised me.
After a long time, this has been a great year for tamil movies. Right
from Anbe sivam, to Pithamagan, there were good movies coming one
after each other, with great songs.
Today some natak has come up in the evnin, Think I shall go for a
nightshow one of these weeknights.
I luved Raja' 'elunkathu veesudhy' esp after watching the video.
Jus heard on TV that Raja did the rerecording within a week!
how is the BGM?

talking of which click to listen Raasaa' BGM wrk in Johny

http://www.dhool.com/sotd_2002.html

esp the 5th one, fab!

and if u scroll down in that link u will find BGMs of Nizhalgal
(slightly not great quality recording, so u will have to raise the
volume level in ur comp to hear)

CiL
Aditya Basrur
2003-11-10 00:08:39 UTC
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Cricketislife! wrote:
<snip>
Post by Cricketislife!
Today some natak has come up in the evnin,
What natak? Anything exciting to tell us?
Post by Cricketislife!
Think I shall go for a
nightshow one of these weeknights.
Alone? Or with someone special?

Good luck!!

Aditya
Cricketislife!
2003-11-10 06:31:43 UTC
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:08:39 +1300, "Aditya Basrur"
Post by Aditya Basrur
<snip>
Post by Cricketislife!
Today some natak has come up in the evnin,
What natak? Anything exciting to tell us?
Oh! nothing, some visit by some relatives in the evening, but anyway
that didnt happen. but couldnt go for the movie, it poured here late
last evening.
Post by Aditya Basrur
Post by Cricketislife!
Think I shall go for a
nightshow one of these weeknights.
Alone? Or with someone special?
nope jus with a old friend of mine, It a He as well, so sad ..!.
Post by Aditya Basrur
Good luck!!
Aditya
Sydney Assbasket
2003-11-10 00:10:33 UTC
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I didn't care for this movie. It was rather frustrating. I sort of understand
what Bala was going for here, but IMO he chickened out and added some blatantly
commercial elements which do not work in the film's favor. The scene with
Simran is irrelevant and goes on far too long. The villain character is a
stock villain, and since we don't see him that much in the film, he wasn't
menacing enough. If Bala was going to use such uncommercial elements as the
earthy characters and a lack of lipsynch songs, why not run with it and make a
more artistic film?

Why do Tamil heroines always have squeaky voiced dubbed onto them? It is
annoying as hell!

The cinematography was good, and Ilayaraja's score had its good points. I
liked the Elangathu and Adadaa songs.

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rkusenet
2003-11-10 00:29:51 UTC
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"Hari" <***@yahoo.com> wrote

welcome back easwaran. Long time no see in ramli/rsc.
Post by Hari
Great movie. Did not feel guilty spending $10.50 per ticket. More I
see vikram, more I am getting impressed. He has a very unique acting
style, has great voice and good dialog delivery. His experience as
dubbing artistie in his struggling days helps him a lot. After Kamal,
he is a complte actor, ease at off-beat movies at the same time can
fit in to main-stream typical hero characters.
Surya was a revelation too. Kaka kaka his acting was good. This movie,
he completely surprised me.
After a long time, this has been a great year for tamil movies. Right
from Anbe sivam, to Pithamagan, there were good movies coming one
after each other, with great songs.
I gave a miss to tamil movies in 2001/2002. In those two yrs I saw
only two movies, RUN and GEMINI and both were crap. I have seen
Vikram in Sethu, Saami and didn't impress me much. U are insulting
Kamal by comparing him with him :-)

This year I saw Saami, Kaaka Kaaka and Boys. Saami was OK and the
other two good.

Pithamagan has music by Iraja. Do people still listen to mottai.

rk-
Cricketislife!
2003-11-10 04:12:37 UTC
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Post by rkusenet
I gave a miss to tamil movies in 2001/2002. In those two yrs I saw
only two movies, RUN and GEMINI and both were crap. I have seen
Vikram in Sethu, Saami and didn't impress me much. U are insulting
Kamal by comparing him with him :-)
He is pretty good. Even Saami, a inane movie, u wud agree it needed
som Star to carry it. no story nothing but he did it. I saw it in
theatres, crowd enjoyed it. plus I like him as well! Whar Hari is
trying to say i think, is that he is pretty good like Kamal in the
sense in the range he portrays.Obviously not everbody will like, I
guess u r one of them. but aas compared to others in industry. He is
the only one tending towards Kamal, it might be like tending towards
infinity at this stage ! but atleast it is tending...!
Post by rkusenet
This year I saw Saami, Kaaka Kaaka and Boys. Saami was OK and the
other two good.
Saami story wise was not even OK, but I think Vikram and the chief
villain aided by fab Vivek pulled it through.
Post by rkusenet
Pithamagan has music by Iraja. Do people still listen to mottai.
the video of elangathue veesudhey is being splashed again n again now
across tv channels (Neyar virupam progs)
Hari Easwaran
2003-11-10 04:47:47 UTC
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Ravi,
Its been long time, since I posted, but have been silent reader.
I am surprised that vikram did not impress you yet. I know, you did not like
sethu. What about Kasi?. Even in gemeni., a typical masala movie, he was
good within the limitations of the character. Did you see the movie King?.
A very controlled performance. Vikram is a god-send actor to TFM in recent
times?. What I liked in him so far is, he got his unique style, and did not
seem to be influenced by any other actor. Even Kamal at times had shown his
influences, but not vikram yet. Compared to other new breed of actors
vijay/ajit/ and others), he is willing to try non-commercial characters
like Kamal in 70's), considering the fact that he has struggled for a long
time to reach this position. I know, Comparing to Kamal is a sacrilage, but
I am not seeing any other actor, other than Vikram, even to be considered
comparing to Kamal.
In TFM, Illayaraja was no more the commercial force, but still he can come
up with good songs. ( Oliyale Therivadu in the movie Alaghi is a class song.
Elanganthru visuade is a very apt song for the situation. His BGM is still
the best out there). Movies like pithamagan, I can not see any one else
doing BGM.
At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
Post by rkusenet
welcome back easwaran. Long time no see in ramli/rsc.
Post by Hari
Great movie. Did not feel guilty spending $10.50 per ticket. More I
see vikram, more I am getting impressed. He has a very unique acting
style, has great voice and good dialog delivery. His experience as
dubbing artistie in his struggling days helps him a lot. After Kamal,
he is a complte actor, ease at off-beat movies at the same time can
fit in to main-stream typical hero characters.
Surya was a revelation too. Kaka kaka his acting was good. This movie,
he completely surprised me.
After a long time, this has been a great year for tamil movies. Right
from Anbe sivam, to Pithamagan, there were good movies coming one
after each other, with great songs.
I gave a miss to tamil movies in 2001/2002. In those two yrs I saw
only two movies, RUN and GEMINI and both were crap. I have seen
Vikram in Sethu, Saami and didn't impress me much. U are insulting
Kamal by comparing him with him :-)
This year I saw Saami, Kaaka Kaaka and Boys. Saami was OK and the
other two good.
Pithamagan has music by Iraja. Do people still listen to mottai.
rk-
rkusenet
2003-11-10 10:53:50 UTC
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Post by Hari Easwaran
I am surprised that vikram did not impress you yet. I know, you did not like
sethu. What about Kasi?. Even in gemeni., a typical masala movie, he was
good within the limitations of the character. Did you see the movie King?.
A very controlled performance. Vikram is a god-send actor to TFM in recent
times?. What I liked in him so far is, he got his unique style, and did not
seem to be influenced by any other actor. Even Kamal at times had shown his
influences, but not vikram yet. Compared to other new breed of actors
vijay/ajit/ and others), he is willing to try non-commercial characters
like Kamal in 70's), considering the fact that he has struggled for a long
time to reach this position. I know, Comparing to Kamal is a sacrilage, but
I am not seeing any other actor, other than Vikram, even to be considered
comparing to Kamal.
As I mentioned, I have seen Vikram in only 3 movies:- Sethu, Gemini and Saami
and he didn't seem to be anything exceptional as claimed by many. My sister
in Chennai says the same about him as you. May be I have to watch more movies.
I read the story of Kasi and I don't think I can watch it. It is quite a sad
movie and I don't like watching such movies. The last time I saw one (Mugavare)
I was depressed.
Post by Hari Easwaran
In TFM, Illayaraja was no more the commercial force, but still he can come
up with good songs. ( Oliyale Therivadu in the movie Alaghi is a class song.
Elanganthru visuade is a very apt song for the situation. His BGM is still
the best out there). Movies like pithamagan, I can not see any one else
doing BGM.
At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
Few weeks back for Diwali celebration we went to a cultural show in Toronto.
There lot of songs were sung by amateur artist in kareoke. Got to hear
lot of Harris Jayaraj songs. His orchestra is very infectious. Be it Omahazabeya
from Kaaka Kaaka (it is copied) or "aaiyao pudichiruku" from Saami. He is the
latest craze for my sons. Earlier on it was ARR, though they still like him.

Overall I do agree with you that this year tamil movies is coming up well.
I have marked certain movies of 2003 to be seen:-

1. Parthiban Kanavu

2. Kadhal Kondein

any more.

rgrds.

rk-
Hari Easwaran
2003-11-11 05:00:27 UTC
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Post by rkusenet
Post by Hari Easwaran
I am surprised that vikram did not impress you yet. I know, you did not like
sethu. What about Kasi?. Even in gemeni., a typical masala movie, he was
good within the limitations of the character. Did you see the movie King?.
A very controlled performance. Vikram is a god-send actor to TFM in recent
times?. What I liked in him so far is, he got his unique style, and did not
seem to be influenced by any other actor. Even Kamal at times had shown his
influences, but not vikram yet. Compared to other new breed of actors
vijay/ajit/ and others), he is willing to try non-commercial characters
like Kamal in 70's), considering the fact that he has struggled for a long
time to reach this position. I know, Comparing to Kamal is a sacrilage, but
I am not seeing any other actor, other than Vikram, even to be considered
comparing to Kamal.
As I mentioned, I have seen Vikram in only 3 movies:- Sethu, Gemini and Saami
and he didn't seem to be anything exceptional as claimed by many. My sister
in Chennai says the same about him as you. May be I have to watch more movies.
I read the story of Kasi and I don't think I can watch it. It is quite a sad
movie and I don't like watching such movies. The last time I saw one (Mugavare)
I was depressed.
I remember you saying that movie was decent. You know, I like Kamal, and in
many ways,
I feel vikram is similar. May be you may not like him, but it is a worth to
try.
Post by rkusenet
Post by Hari Easwaran
In TFM, Illayaraja was no more the commercial force, but still he can come
up with good songs. ( Oliyale Therivadu in the movie Alaghi is a class song.
Elanganthru visuade is a very apt song for the situation. His BGM is still
the best out there). Movies like pithamagan, I can not see any one else
doing BGM.
At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
Few weeks back for Diwali celebration we went to a cultural show in Toronto.
There lot of songs were sung by amateur artist in kareoke. Got to hear
lot of Harris Jayaraj songs. His orchestra is very infectious. Be it Omahazabeya
from Kaaka Kaaka (it is copied) or "aaiyao pudichiruku" from Saami. He is the
latest craze for my sons. Earlier on it was ARR, though they still like him.
I know Omahazabeya could be an inspired song. Tamil TV serial Annamalai;s
title song has the same
starting tune. Do you know, where it is inspired or copied from?.
It is safe to say that Harris jayaraj is the only one, who can produce
songs, with the same amount of sound quality and sound engineerring, we like
to expect from ARR. To me he is already better than ARR in BGM. I was
watching majnu in SUN TV couple of week back, and impressed by his score.
Post by rkusenet
Overall I do agree with you that this year tamil movies is coming up well.
I have marked certain movies of 2003 to be seen:-
1. Parthiban Kanavu
2. Kadhal Kondein
any more.
I would add
1. Nala Dayamanthi - I liked this movie. As usual with any products with
Kamal's finger prints, all the actors ( including the
australians) did a great job with out going overboard. Song Enna edhu got a
very infectious melody to it.
2, Thiruda Thirudi - Not expecting much from this movie, but genuinely
surprised. Good Time pass, funny and down to earth real characters, barring
fights of course. Dhanush again did the trick. This boy can go distance.
3. Alai - I know, I never thought, I will put a Simbu movie here. If you
fast forward the unwanted fight scenes and songs, you can find that this
movie is again a decent down to earth effort. Movie is funny, thanks to
Vivek and Silambrasan ( Simbu's brother). Again, I was not expecting
anything from this movie, I don't know, whether that helped.
4. Kadhal Konden - good movie, but not what I was expecting, could have
been better. First half was good with a very refreshing treatment, second
half was like seeing GUNA all over again. But with out Yuvan music and songs
and Dhanush, this movie would have been a sinker.
5. Parthiban kanavu - Good simple movie. Srikanth is again a natural actor
with good screen presence. Snekha has impressed me in each of her movies. I
like all the songs in the movie, Kana kandenadi is a great melody.

Manasellam is also good movie to watch once. Vaseegra is probably only
watchble vijay movie in a long time.
Movies like dhum and jayam are hit movies, I don't think, I will watch them.

There are couple of other movies, I liked. They may be year old.
April madathile - Srikanth/snekha starrer - To a off-repeated love story,
Director Henry successfully gave a natural and refreshing treatment and
extracted charming performance from the cast, which most of them are
newcomers. I find it better with newcomers than established actors.
Kanavugal pookum is a great spring song.

Virumbegran - Another movie trying to be artistic and still trying to work
with in the commercial rules. Explored the relations between the fire
fighters and the village people, they are trying to protect. Movie is well
presented and natural. There are couple of fights and songs, but that was to
sell the movie in the market, after finding no takers.
Prasanth and Snekha did their part well. Overall, a very good effort.

Fivestar - Same director Su.gi. Ganesan, who directed virumbegran. The
story was little bit far fetched, but I liked the way he treated the
characters. Again lot of fresh faces, they did their part well.

I hope, you have watched Anbe Sivam, if not please. This may be the kamal
movie, you may like it after a while.

Warning, Don't go near to movies like Arasu, Alladin, Parai, Banda
paramasivam. I am not responsible for the consequences.

Hari
Post by rkusenet
rgrds.
rk-
Arjun Pandit
2003-11-11 12:10:25 UTC
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Post by Hari Easwaran
3. Alai - I know, I never thought, I will put a Simbu movie here. If you
fast forward the unwanted fight scenes and songs, you can find that this
movie is again a decent down to earth effort. Movie is funny, thanks to
Vivek and Silambrasan ( Simbu's brother). Again, I was not expecting
anything from this movie, I don't know, whether that helped.
Vivek's comedy in Alai is damn good. Even if you include the silly
things like a really fat lady running and bowling a beamer at Vivek.
When she is running the entire ground shakes to some loud background
music. But the movie itself is quite low on content. So low that I
didnt even bother to see the second half.
Post by Hari Easwaran
April madathile - Srikanth/snekha starrer - To a off-repeated love story,
Director Henry successfully gave a natural and refreshing treatment and
extracted charming performance from the cast, which most of them are
newcomers. I find it better with newcomers than established actors.
Kanavugal pookum is a great spring song.
I found it to be silly , tolerable only for the acting of
Srikanth/Sneha.
rkusenet
2003-11-11 12:43:27 UTC
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Post by Hari Easwaran
I know Omahazabeya could be an inspired song. Tamil TV serial Annamalai;s
title song has the same
starting tune. Do you know, where it is inspired or copied from?.
I am surprised u are asking this. I got the link in tfmpage. Basically
there are two different copied sources:-

(a) Initial omaha zabeeya from some arabic language song.

(b) The starting guitar piece (when the song suddenly takes off). The
original is from a german groups and it was exactly the same.
Post by Hari Easwaran
It is safe to say that Harris jayaraj is the only one, who can produce
songs, with the same amount of sound quality and sound engineerring, we like
to expect from ARR.
agreed. His record recording is very good.
Post by Hari Easwaran
To me he is already better than ARR in BGM. I was
watching majnu in SUN TV couple of week back, and impressed by his score.
I noticed that the BGM of KaakaKaaka had influence/copy from UsualSuspects.
HarrisJayaraj has also mentioned that HansZimmer is one of his favorite,
which to me sounds like another inspiration source :-)

I will try to see some movies u have recommended. Will give a pass to
any Simbu/Silamberasan movies. Sorry I can't muster courage.
Post by Hari Easwaran
I hope, you have watched Anbe Sivam, if not please. This may be the kamal
movie, you may like it after a while.
Nope. I want to avoid watching Kamal movies these days. Somehow the fizz
is gone from him. The last movie I liked was Hey Ram (great movie, spoiled
by his narcissist presence in every frame).

rk-
Sydney Assbasket
2003-11-10 16:31:34 UTC
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Post by Hari Easwaran
Elanganthru visuade is a very apt song for the situation. His BGM is still
the best out there). Movies like pithamagan, I can not see any one else
doing BGM.
At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
I just read that it was Shreya Ghoshal singing in Elangaathu Veesudhe. She
doesn't do a horrible job IMO.

There are quite a few talents in TFM as you listed. I only wish ARR could give
TFM as good an album as Tehzeeb...

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Hari Easwaran
2003-11-11 05:08:00 UTC
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I did not hear Tehzeeb yet. Right now, TFM is not missing ARR that much.
Except boys, all of his recent sound tracks failed to create ripple.
Personally, I lost the hitch, I had before listening to new ARR albums, when
it hit the market.
Post by Sydney Assbasket
Post by Hari Easwaran
Elanganthru visuade is a very apt song for the situation. His BGM is still
the best out there). Movies like pithamagan, I can not see any one else
doing BGM.
At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
I just read that it was Shreya Ghoshal singing in Elangaathu Veesudhe.
She
Post by Sydney Assbasket
doesn't do a horrible job IMO.
There are quite a few talents in TFM as you listed. I only wish ARR could give
TFM as good an album as Tehzeeb...
Remove "moc" to reply.
Whoever says "Nothing is impossible" has never tried to slam a
revolving door.
- Willy Walker
Loony Tunes
2003-11-10 18:56:04 UTC
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Post by Hari Easwaran
At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
Vidyasagar has given music to quite a few Gult movies too. I didnt know he
composed for Tamil Films.

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rkusenet
2003-11-10 19:06:42 UTC
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Post by Loony Tunes
Post by Hari Easwaran
At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
Vidyasagar has given music to quite a few Gult movies too. I didnt know he
composed for Tamil Films.
he has been around in tamil movies for nearly a decade. he first shot into
fame as the composer of the original version of "bholee bhalee ladki" (some
Akshay Kumar - Mamta Kulkarni movie of mid 1990s), which was copied by
Rajesh Roshan (another mahachor).

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Loony Tunes
2003-11-10 19:27:31 UTC
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he has been around in tamil movies for nearly a decade. he first shot into
fame as the composer of the original version of "bholee bhalee ladki" (some
Akshay Kumar - Mamta Kulkarni movie of mid 1990s), which was copied by
The movie was "Sabse Bada Khiladi" directed by Keshu. The movie story is
based on one of the hindi novels that
I actually enjoyed reading, titled "Lallu" by Ved Prakash (iirc). The novel
has roughly 20 more twists than what was used in the movie.

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Rajesh Roshan (another mahachor).
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rkusenet
2003-11-10 19:22:07 UTC
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The movie was "Sabse Bada Khiladi" directed by Keshu. The movie story is
based on one of the hindi novels that
I actually enjoyed reading, titled "Lallu" by Ved Prakash (iirc). The novel
has roughly 20 more twists than what was used in the movie.
u mean Ved Prakash Kamboj.

I have read lot of Hindi novels during my school days. All of them were
unadulterated crap.

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Loony Tunes
2003-11-10 19:36:19 UTC
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The movie was "Sabse Bada Khiladi" directed by Keshu. The movie story is
based on one of the hindi novels that
I actually enjoyed reading, titled "Lallu" by Ved Prakash (iirc). The novel
has roughly 20 more twists than what was used in the movie.
u mean Ved Prakash Kamboj.
Yup..u r right.
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All of them were
unadulterated crap.
Seconded.
I enjoyed reading "Lallu" though. The novel was an intentional exercise in
fooling the reader. Just when you think you followed the plot, there was a
twist....it went on and on...so it became an EP later on.... I had to figure
out the ending, needless to say, Ved Prakash won.

-k
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Shishir Yerramilli
2003-11-11 05:15:25 UTC
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The movie was "Sabse Bada Khiladi" directed by Keshu. The movie story is
based on one of the hindi novels that
I actually enjoyed reading, titled "Lallu" by Ved Prakash (iirc). The novel
has roughly 20 more twists than what was used in the movie.
u mean Ved Prakash Kamboj.
I have read lot of Hindi novels during my school days. All of them were
unadulterated crap.
The only Hindi "literature" I have ever read was Chacha Chaudhary
comics and even that I struggled with!Funny thing was that at the back
of the comics,you had ads for what seemed novels with strongly sexual
overtones with pictures of half naked men and women
carressing!Remember CC was aimed towards children.Have you or any one
here read any of these sexy novels?Or they just like James Hadley
Chase whose cover had a skimpily dressed girl but sexuality was only
one aspect of the story?
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Loony Tunes
2003-11-11 12:26:47 UTC
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Chase whose cover had a skimpily dressed girl but sexuality was only
one aspect of the story?
Yup most were like that. I remember novels, that had poor imitation drawings
of bollywood heros and heroines with bombastic titles, but the content was
UC. Chase was a better read during high school/college times.

-k
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Cricketislife!
2003-11-11 12:30:46 UTC
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Yup most were like that. I remember novels, that had poor imitation drawings
of bollywood heros and heroines with bombastic titles, but the content was
UC. Chase was a better read during high school/college times.
Never read those hindi novels but seen lots of them, in railway
station stalls and in heaps on streets, jus near a busstand or in mkt
area. Hav read Tamil cheap novels (those MalaiMathi ) stuff.!
RajeshKumar etc. Detective n murder stuff!
Shishir Yerramilli
2003-11-11 18:54:57 UTC
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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:26:47 -0600, "Loony Tunes"
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Yup most were like that. I remember novels, that had poor imitation drawings
of bollywood heros and heroines with bombastic titles, but the content was
UC. Chase was a better read during high school/college times.
Never read those hindi novels but seen lots of them, in railway
station stalls and in heaps on streets, jus near a busstand or in mkt
area. Hav read Tamil cheap novels (those MalaiMathi ) stuff.!
RajeshKumar etc. Detective n murder stuff!
They sound like trash but they would seem like good time pass on a
train ,well thats what I thought back then though never got around to
buying one.If I read one I will probably howl with laughter.BTW do you
remember the detective novel that the paranoid Sanjeev Kumar was
reading in the train in Angoor?
Hari Easwaran
2003-11-11 05:19:36 UTC
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At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
Vidyasagar has given music to quite a few Gult movies too. I didnt know he
composed for Tamil Films.
he has been around in tamil movies for nearly a decade. he first shot into
fame as the composer of the original version of "bholee bhalee ladki" (some
Akshay Kumar - Mamta Kulkarni movie of mid 1990s), which was copied by
Rajesh Roshan (another mahachor).
rk-
The song is 'Bhodhai eri pocchu' from the movie Jai hind. His first movie
was 'Nila penna' in 1990. Nothing was happening for him, until Jai hind and
karna happened in 1994/1995. Despite giving chartbusters, most of his movies
did not do commercially well, and he got a third life, when 'dil' hit the
market around '2000'. IMO, his music is what you will get, when you mix raja
and rahman music in equal terms.
Cricketislife!
2003-11-11 12:02:22 UTC
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The song is 'Bhodhai eri pocchu' from the movie Jai hind. His first movie
was 'Nila penna' in 1990. Nothing was happening for him, until Jai hind and
karna happened in 1994/1995. Despite giving chartbusters, most of his movies
did not do commercially well, and he got a third life, when 'dil' hit the
market around '2000'. IMO, his music is what you will get, when you mix raja
and rahman music in equal terms.
Maragathamani comes up now n then with some good music, His Niveda..!
from nee pathi naan pathi was illyarajish. Another decent MD was
Mahesh (of Nammavar) who passed away very early, unfortunately.
Sydney Assbasket
2003-11-11 21:41:08 UTC
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The song is 'Bhodhai eri pocchu' from the movie Jai hind. His first movie
was 'Nila penna' in 1990. Nothing was happening for him, until Jai hind and
karna happened in 1994/1995. Despite giving chartbusters, most of his movies
did not do commercially well, and he got a third life, when 'dil' hit the
market around '2000'. IMO, his music is what you will get, when you mix raja
and rahman music in equal terms.
Maragathamani comes up now n then with some good music, His Niveda..!
from nee pathi naan pathi was illyarajish. Another decent MD was
Mahesh (of Nammavar) who passed away very early, unfortunately.
Mahesh's music for Preminchukundam Raa was pretty good.

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2003-11-10 21:11:50 UTC
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At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
Vidyasagar has given music to quite a few Gult movies too. I didnt know he
composed for Tamil Films.
-k
Vidyasagar does quite a few Malayalam films as well. The first Tamil album of
his that I heard was for the Arjun film Jaihind. Awful film, but I liked the
songs when they came out. One of the songs was a copy of Malkit Singh's Gur
Nalon Ishq Mitha.

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2003-11-11 05:11:35 UTC
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Post by Hari Easwaran
At the same time, I am really impressed with the kind of musical talent in
TFM now. Vidyasagar, Yuvan, Harris Jayaraj are all doing a good job.
Vidyasagar has given music to quite a few Gult movies too. I didnt know he
composed for Tamil Films.
-k
Vidyasagar does quite a few Malayalam films as well. The first Tamil album of
his that I heard was for the Arjun film Jaihind. Awful film, but I liked the
songs when they came out. One of the songs was a copy of Malkit Singh's Gur
Nalon Ishq Mitha.
Vidyasagar was a discovery of Kamalhaasan.I just saw the trailers of
Jai Hind,looked like time pass.Anyway the movie was also written and
directed by Arjun.
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